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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: nealeffendi on April 10, 2018, 08:50:23 PM

Title: Has PCGS changed their attitude to faults?
Post by: nealeffendi on April 10, 2018, 08:50:23 PM
Noticed on ebay today several pre decimals in PCGS slabs as mint errors from the same seller. These are lamination faults and similar defects (and fairly ho hum rather than spectacular faults). Check out Ebay item 273149761554 (a 1953 shilling in only AU53 with a lamination fault). Didn't PCGS usually no grade these sorts of faults not that long ago (or downgrade them?
Title: RE: Has PCGS changed their attitude to faults?
Post by: Fr45h3R on April 10, 2018, 09:03:56 PM
US$65 per error to grade to get the 'Mint Error' attribution + return postage.

If you submitted under the regular submission I suspect it would be knocked back.
Title: RE: Has PCGS changed their attitude to faults?
Post by: nealeffendi on April 10, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='114823' dateline='1523360036'US$65 per error to grade to get the 'Mint Error' attribution + return postage.

If you submitted under the regular submission I suspect it would be knocked back.

It has to be much cheaper than that (for some, not us). The seller is a big dealer and has at least a dozen fairly ordinary to OK defects (lamination faults, struck through, minor edge clip) in very ordinary grades (the lowest I saw was a 1954 shilling in VF25 with lamination fault). The majority will probably sell at well under $65 (and that is not taking into account that $65 becomes $85 after adjusting exchange rates).
I do have a few lamination fault coins in regular slabs, nothing major though.
I think the best fault was a broadstruck in AU58 for a late date sixpence. Very mundane and all us error collectors probably have a dozen better examples.
Title: RE: Has PCGS changed their attitude to faults?
Post by: Cockatoo Coins on April 11, 2018, 10:03:59 AM
It all depends on what the dealer has negotiated in their contracts, including errors in economy submissions or whatever it is.  They wont allow you to submit all errors however, there are criteria as to what will be accepted in economy and which must still go to error service.
Hong Kong submission centre allows you to submit those errors with other regular submission level coins and you just pay a $15US per coin fee for an error designation. Can make it cheaper if you only have a few but personally I still submit direct to the US to avoid the lengthy turnarounds, costs more but 4 weeks vs 20 weeks pays for itself.
Title: RE: Has PCGS changed their attitude to faults?
Post by: drakesterling on April 18, 2018, 12:10:32 AM
Quote from: 'Cockatoo Coins' pid='114829' dateline='1523406839'It all depends on what the dealer has negotiated in their contracts, including errors in economy submissions or whatever it is.  They wont allow you to submit all errors however, there are criteria as to what will be accepted in economy and which must still go to error service.
Hong Kong submission centre allows you to submit those errors with other regular submission level coins and you just pay a $15US per coin fee for an error designation. Can make it cheaper if you only have a few but personally I still submit direct to the US to avoid the lengthy turnarounds, costs more but 4 weeks vs 20 weeks pays for itself.

Don't forget you get the better images with PCGS USA.

Eric