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Title: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: spraggdean23 on November 09, 2025, 04:09:04 PM
Hi, I recently won this coin at auction and was wondering whether it would grade at PCGS and if so what grade do other people think it would get? There does seem to be a small planchet flaw on the obverse next to the letter F. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/267435222550
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: Triggersmob on November 09, 2025, 06:41:25 PM
Wrong pics uploaded. I'll try again.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: Triggersmob on November 09, 2025, 06:43:32 PM
I've grabbed the pictures and put them here to make it easier.

(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/213/48_obv.jpg)

(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/213/48_rev.jpg)
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: spraggdean23 on November 09, 2025, 07:47:09 PM
Thank you Triggersmob.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: autocoupler on November 10, 2025, 12:23:32 PM
Are the dark marks near the star on the reverse, planchet flaws or just dark streaking of the planchet? Also, the reverse looks to be a bit wishy washy.

Hard to tell online. MS62BN?
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: ausproofs on November 10, 2025, 12:40:23 PM
I say MS60BN ..

Grading scale can be found here https://www.pcgs.com/grades
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: spraggdean23 on November 10, 2025, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='130509' dateline='1762739612'Are the dark marks near the star on the reverse, planchet flaws or just dark streaking of the planchet? Also, the reverse looks to be a bit wishy washy.

Hard to tell online. MS62BN?

Hi autocoupler the dark marks near the star on the reverse is just dark streaking of the planchet.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: ausproofs on November 10, 2025, 07:35:54 PM
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Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: spraggdean23 on November 10, 2025, 10:51:06 PM
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130510' dateline='1762740623'I say MS60BN ..

Grading scale can be found here https://www.pcgs.com/grades

Hi ausproofs why do you think it would only grade MS60BN? I was thinking it would grade MS62BN or MS63BN.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: ausproofs on November 11, 2025, 06:52:58 PM
Quote from: 'spraggdean23' pid='130514' dateline='1762777266'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130510' dateline='1762740623'I say MS60BN ..

Grading scale can be found here https://www.pcgs.com/grades

Hi ausproofs why do you think it would only grade MS60BN? I was thinking it would grade MS62BN or MS63BN.

Hi Spraggdean, Typically PCGS doesn't like the streak marks on coins based on what I understand and experienced. 

Regardless you have a nice coin, good pick up.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: spraggdean23 on November 11, 2025, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130517' dateline='1762849378'
Quote from: 'spraggdean23' pid='130514' dateline='1762777266'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130510' dateline='1762740623'I say MS60BN ..

Grading scale can be found here https://www.pcgs.com/grades

Hi ausproofs why do you think it would only grade MS60BN? I was thinking it would grade MS62BN or MS63BN.

Hi Spraggdean, Typically PCGS doesn't like the streak marks on coins based on what I understand and experienced. 

Regardless you have a nice coin, good pick up.

Hi ausproofs yes I know that PCGS tend to downgrade coins with streak marks. The 1925 Penny from the Borg collection graded MS63RB and the coin itself has a lot of black streak marks on the reverse.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: fred lever on November 12, 2025, 06:55:07 AM
Hi Spragg!
From an old guy's perspective that photo shows a coin that would rate about 'EF', no more.
The coin has a lot of problems resulting from the poor tilted strike.
I'll leave the 'streaking' alone as it makes the coin look like it has metal flaking.
Back to the strike, the planchet was tilted and the strike pressure was very uneven from top to bottom.
The rim is poorly defined at the top and exaggerated at the bottom.
There is a large lack of definition of the king's hair and around the head.
The rim beads are poorly defined in the weak areas.
That disturbance around the star and rim looks like ding to me.
That's the problem when you have a beautiful looking coin, all the faults stand out!
Its just an EF to me, whatever that is in the American grading I don't know.
Too many detractors to rate EF+.

Cheers, Fred.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: Basilstate on November 12, 2025, 08:49:12 AM
Yes,didn't want to post but it would not grade highly,cost of PCGS would be more than the coin is worth,sorry ,just MO.
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: ausproofs on November 13, 2025, 09:01:57 PM
Quote from: 'spraggdean23' pid='130518' dateline='1762852539'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130517' dateline='1762849378'
Quote from: 'spraggdean23' pid='130514' dateline='1762777266'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='130510' dateline='1762740623'I say MS60BN ..

Grading scale can be found here https://www.pcgs.com/grades

Hi ausproofs why do you think it would only grade MS60BN? I was thinking it would grade MS62BN or MS63BN.

Hi Spraggdean, Typically PCGS doesn't like the streak marks on coins based on what I understand and experienced. 

Regardless you have a nice coin, good pick up.

Hi ausproofs yes I know that PCGS tend to downgrade coins with streak marks. The 1925 Penny from the Borg collection graded MS63RB and the coin itself has a lot of black streak marks on the reverse.
Hey, I think the two replies after mine summed it up well. It's a nice coin, but I don't think it would grade too high with PCGS. AU58 or MS60 is more likely based on the photos. I hope I am wrong though!
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: Tanecoins on November 14, 2025, 04:45:41 PM
EF, clear wear on George's hair
Title: RE: 1948 Perth Penny Grade
Post by: coinsfolder on December 01, 2025, 07:49:55 PM
Hi, hard to tell from these photos — it could be anywhere from XF to MS. More detailed photos would be needed for an accurate assessment.