1933 Half-Penny Overdate ??

Mister T · October 09, 2021, 07:53:41 AM

Nice - that's quite an obvious one.

Basilstate · October 10, 2021, 10:13:27 AM

Yes Mr T.,as i've posted before i have almost 30 different final 3's on the 33 half,no one can offer an explanation what the Mint was trying to achieve/do.
Ian McConnelly was on to it,i sent him some USB Pics. shortly before he passed on,shame none of the other high profile Oz. Numismatists took an interest in this Coin as there must be a story behind the Mints repeated re-jigging of the final 3.

I'll give this Coin a bath to see if there is any more detail hiding under the muck.

echidna · October 10, 2021, 05:50:37 PM

There are a number of versions of the overdate penny.
Makes sense that there is a similar thing going on with the halfpennies.

serenitystan · October 13, 2021, 07:45:40 AM

Compared to all other predecimal hub number changed over dates. This attempt showed great workmanship after I presume many failed attempts at near perfection..

Basilstate · October 14, 2021, 12:06:22 PM

Quote from: 'Basilstate' pid='125683' dateline='1633823007'I'll give this Coin a bath to see if there is any more detail hiding under the muck.

Pics. of the above Coin after a ultrasonic bath,slight remnants of a tip showing but nothing dramatic,i have better egs.

Owner of Coin in post 81 wanted it back,he knows someone who wanted to look at it so will give it a bath if i get it back down the track and post.

echidna · October 14, 2021, 07:29:15 PM

Fantastic improvement.
Pics are excellent too.

Basilstate · November 11, 2021, 10:19:02 AM

Thanks Ecci.
Another interesting Variety that our group found up here on the North Coast.First one i've seen showing the stem(like the Penny) of the 2.The top loop is reasonably clean.
Sad Ian McConnelly is not around to see these USB Pics.,he copped a lot of flack,mainly from 'éxperts' that are mostly self appointed,on his original artlicles on the 33 Half overdate.

Basilstate · August 22, 2022, 10:34:20 AM

I noticed this whilst sorting a bulk buy on the W/end.

Looks like a '1' under the first 3 of a 1933 Half but not sure what it is,anyone have a thoughts/views on it.Thanks.

img]https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11956/504/3312.jpg[/img]

Mister T · August 27, 2022, 07:19:57 PM

Almost looks like a strike through but hard to tell - is it raised or incuse?

Basilstate · August 28, 2022, 10:31:45 AM

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='126837' dateline='1661593797'Almost looks like a strike through but hard to tell - is it raised or incuse?

Its raised Mr.T.,sits under the first 3,i never seen anything like it,local dealer was bemused,"possibly foreign object on Die" but that theory is a common 'cop-out' in most cases.

gnome61 · August 28, 2022, 11:05:37 AM

I remember reading somewhere quite awhile back sometimes coins were varnished or lacquered to keep them in good condition. Could it be something that has been removed from it at some stage. Played around with the image, hope that is ok.

Mister T · August 28, 2022, 04:34:32 PM

True, though I think it was mostly proofs that were lacquered.

I'm thinking die crack is the most obvious explanation but it looks too smooth.

gnome61 · August 28, 2022, 06:01:43 PM

The varnishing and lacquering I was referring to was done by some older collectors outside of the minting process.

fred lever · August 28, 2022, 08:42:11 PM

Hi Basil, possibly a remnant of a hub date change from 31 to 33.
Or else its a die/hub fracture that "looks" like a number part.
Good spotting! Well done.
That's another thing for me to look for when I get back to coin world.

Fred.

Basilstate · August 29, 2022, 08:55:25 AM

Thanks for the replies fellas,gives me something to think about.
Its not a serendipitous figure,it has shape with regular lines and sits under the 3,as Fred states its probably a Hub artifact of some kind but puzzling on what its doing under the first 3 ?.It was the final 3 that was worked on by the Mint.

Good to see you posting Fred,hope your health is Ok.