Just for the petrol heads

Started by ausjack, March 11, 2015, 12:08:46 PM

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autocoupler

Fred, "toffee nose racecar set". Would they be the same crowd who stuffed Touring Car racing by championing a two-manufacturer series and insisting everything must be equal?
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I\'ve forgotten the other two!

JeffH

I think the two car series is more the "bogan racecar set".
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fred lever

Hi Auto, dont know much about racing now, the lot I bumped into were the upper crust lot I think it was the A.R.D.C. doncha know.
A mob called CAMS did the road race licenses, I had a dirt track novice license by i cant remember now.
If your lot have there noses stuck up their bums they are probably the children of or even grandchildren, it was a long while ago!
They could not cope with a dirt track called Brabham  from Hurstville of all places, so low class dontcha know, thrashing the arse out of their Maserati's and Ferraris.
It was not the drivers so much they were all mad racers,  it was the upper class crap who ran road racing at the time.
Jack  got good advice from some overseas car guys and crafted his Cooper Bristol?  so it was a race winner.
He did enter  his actual Dirt track car ( twin JAP special) in a hill climb at first (maybe Rob Roy?) and did fastest time, the dontchknows dismissed FTD as his special did not comply to ARDC regs.
Also they kyboshed any advertising on a track car so Jack just got tired of it all sold everything, cars engineering works and took the family off to Britain.
He hooked up with Cooper, ran a Cooper Bristol? and a 250F Maser but then came to his senses and went back to rear engine Cooper/Climax with Ron T doing the engineering.
Its so long ago and I drifted away from Motor sport  into Electronics and  making my own money with the new technology.
I did not drive simply because I got "sea sick" dizzy with all the pitch and yaw, could not even ride a solo bike, just wanted a quite life engineering stuff sitting down.
Jack and Ron produced the later F1 winners with Repco and Ford engines up to about 1970 i lost all interest way before that.

Jack was an Australian sports champion  he was a national treasure but wrong class at the wrong time and rubber lots of noses in the dirt, called a spade a spade.
Possibly he is commemorated now I dont know.

Fred.

autocoupler

Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='128839' dateline='1702345270'I think the two car series is more the "bogan racecar set".
He, he it probably always was boganish, even back when those dastardly all comers were running interference. Loved it back then though.

Fred, I remember the excited anticipation of Jack Brabham being a starter at Bathurst sometime in the seventies. Alas, his Torana didn't get off the start grid and I think was rear ended. Bugger!
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I\'ve forgotten the other two!

fred lever

Hi Auto, my memory tells me he and a certain novice called  S.Moss decided to play sillly old  buggers and  conned a team, I think it was financed by a Jeans company to enter a car.
The Torana was a piece of junk and the lads were going to cruise around wave to the crowd and have a right old time, then park it.
But they wrecked a gearbox, that got changed overnight but the gear shifter linkage was not fitted properly and S.Moss had to back it up on the grid and it stayed stuck in reverse.
He got rammed  and that as they say was that. It got patched up and two F1 giants toured around for the cameras and then called it a day.
Well I think that is what happened, getting a bit of memory problems now maybe I dreamed the whole thing?
Fred.

autocoupler

Nothing wrong with your memory Fred. I forgot Stirling Moss was involved in that enterprise. I had to look it up but, it was 1976.....apparently.  :blush:
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I\'ve forgotten the other two!

JeffH

When Jack went to Britain he drove Cooper cars and got to know the Coopers (the people as well as the cars). He pestered them to give him a team drive, finally they relented and tossed him the keys to the transporter to take their team cars to the track.
He did, of course, get a team drive and did quite well.

Another time (late '60's, can't remember which year exactly) at the Dutch Grand Prix there were comments that he might be a bit past it -would have been 40 or so. He hobbled  out to the grid wearing a big, false beard and leaning on a walking stick. Discarded the props and went on to win the race.
Hardly past it seeing he won his third Formula 1 championship round about then. Repco Brabham engine based on production Oldsmobile alloy block. When he convinced Repco to build the engines (they were reluctant not having done any such thing before) anmd he supplied the blocks. Not quite as powerfull as the bespoke engines but light and built to be reliable and, of course, in the Ron Tauranac designe Repco Brabham BT19 car.

He was a fierce competitor and was reluctant to pit for fuel, when running low near the end of a race. Ran out on the last lap a couple of times and pushed his car to the finish line to record a place. That is the hard way to win a world championship.
Not the only one to do that.
F1: 6 Race Leaders Who Ran Out of Fuel on the Last Lap
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JeffH

All electric cars should come with a warning: "Inside every sober-suited man with a new electric car is an 18-year-old hoon trying to get out. Control him. Settle down, dickhead."
The sound of silence is the future of motor racing
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autocoupler

While turning left at lights I noticed the traffic in my intended direction of travel was stopped at the intersection and could see the turn right arrow across its path was amber. I thought no worries, by the time they get a green light I'll be fifty metres up the road. Well, I was and so too was the first car at the front of the following line. Yep, a Tesla driven by an old fart, right up my clacker. I followed him for some time, every opportunity to give the thing a squirt he did.
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I\'ve forgotten the other two!

JeffH

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='129073' dateline='1709172270'While turning left at lights I noticed the traffic in my intended direction of travel was stopped at the intersection and could see the turn right arrow across its path was amber. I thought no worries, by the time they get a green light I'll be fifty metres up the road. Well, I was and so too was the first car at the front of the following line. Yep, a Tesla driven by an old fart, right up my clacker. I followed him for some time, every opportunity to give the thing a squirt he did.

A lot of hot up merchants are obsessed with peak power but torque is what matters. Torque is what mostly gives acceleration.
That's why the Ford "Barra" six cylinder engine (used in the Falcon and territory between 2002 and 2011116) is so highly regarded -it has a good torque curve, especially at low rpm. American hot up shops are importing them to put into such things as Mustangs. Doesn't hurt either that they have very strong internal components so substantial increases to output, and insane rev limits, are very possible.
Ford Barra: The Australian Straight-Six Capable of Unleashing Thousands of Horses
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Unicorn

Yes Jeff, have noticed a lot of enthusiasts using them in "non-ford" units lately.  :winkextra:

JeffH

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='129075' dateline='1709244888'Yes Jeff, have noticed a lot of enthusiasts using them in "non-ford" units lately.  :winkextra:

Some have even been put into Holden Commodores! :shok:
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serenitystan

Very expensive conversion just for the engine. Then you have to upgrade the gearbox and diff, which is just as expensive. Get a big block. Goes all day every day..

JeffH

Quote from: 'serenitystan' pid='129077' dateline='1709273883'Very expensive conversion just for the engine. Then you have to upgrade the gearbox and diff, which is just as expensive. Get a big block. Goes all day every day..

So get a big block and you don't need a gearbox/driveshaft/diff upgrade? Who would've thought? [Not me.]
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serenitystan

"Jeez" Sorry, I had Nooo idea it was best to upgrade to a Tremec TR-6060 magnam gearbox and a Ford 9 inch with Richmond gears, 35 spline billet axels + custom driveshaft for a big block motor.